Okay ... now wait a minute ... did I read that right? The people of California legally voted to amend their own constitution to define marriage in the longstanding traditional manner as between a man and a woman ... and the governor and the state attorney general shot them down? Wait ... wait ... what happened to government "of the people"? Okay, okay, I'll move on, but if I were a Californian, I'd be moving to recall my governor and attorney general. I mean, if the best they can do is ignore us, then they have no reason to be there.
Okay, first ... now brace yourselves ... I'm going to post for the sake of clarity the entire text of the amendment to the California constitution. Are you ready? Take a deep breath ... here it comes. "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." If you blinked, you likely missed it. That's it. Hang onto that.
So, what was the original complaint? I'll paraphrase. "We wanted to get married and the only reason we couldn't was Prop 8." Seriously. Okay, they had to get more elaborate than that. So here was their basic case. Article XIV of the U.S. Constitution includes what is called the "equal protection" clause which says, in essence that no state can "deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." The claim is that it prevents each plaintiff from marrying the person of his or her choice, that such choice is sheltered by the 14th Amendment, and that "domestic partnership" is not the same thing as marriage.
Now, "due process" is a bit hard to define. The Magna Carta considers it a function of the law of the land and the legal judgment of peers. That, of course, can't be it because Prop 8 was the law of the land and it was done by the legal judgment of peers. So, of course, "due process" must be something else. What exactly it is isn't defined. Good luck with that. But I would guess that "due process" would need to be defined, to fit into this judgment, as "whatever we don't like" to the plaintiff. There, that fits nicely.
So what did the judge actually rule?
Proposition 8 both unconstitutionally burdens the exercise of the fundamental right to marry and creates an irrational classification on the basis of sexual orientation.There it is, folks. Clear as day. Or ... is it?
First, I'll let the concept of "the fundamental right to marry" go on by. I mean, seriously? But, okay, let's leave that alone. Let's all agree that everyone has the fundamental right to marry. So, what are the two issues, according to the plaintiffs and the judge? Agreeing with the longstanding traditional definition of "marriage" as a union of a man and a woman is a burden to the right to marry. In fact, it creates a classification ... okay, wait. What does that even mean? And, of course, is it true?
Let's see? What about that single 14-word sentence burdens marriage? Since marriage is defined as the union of a man and a woman, how does requiring a man and a woman to be involved burden marriage? In fact, there is absolutely nothing in the statement that prevents people who consider themselves homosexual from getting married. Oh, they will have to remain within the boundaries of the word, but nothing would prevent a gay man from marrying a lesbian if he so chose. So to stretch this to something that "burdens the exercise of the fundamental right to marry" requires first that you toss out the definition of "marriage". And, look, we're getting pretty good at that, aren't we? I mean, we've moved "gentleman" from a well-mannered and considerate man with high standards of proper behavior to any male that leers at naked women. We've shifted "gay" from happy to homosexual. We've even decided that "Christian" doesn't actually need to include anything about Christ. Okay, so, yeah, I can see that. Since I'm defining "marriage" as my favorite ice cream flavor, I have to say that Prop 8 makes no sense. What does "man and woman" have to do with ice cream? And why can't I define the term however I want since they are?
And then there's this "irrational classification on the basis of sexual orientation". Okay, now, go back and read that 14-word sentence again. Go slow. It's a lot to take in. Be careful. You don't want to miss the orientation test. Missed it? Come on! The judge says it's there! Don't you see where it says, "People who are homosexual are not allowed to eat my favorite ice cream"? (Okay, stupid, I know.) Can you find anything that says anything at all about the "sexual orientation" of anyone involved?
Seriously, folks, the thing is pitiful. Over on page 111 the judge goes into the question of whether they "seek to exercise the fundamental right to marry; or, because they are couples of the same sex, whether they seek recognition of a new right." Valid question. And where did the judge go to find out? The history of the United States. Reasonable. And yet, even though in the history of the United States there never was marriage defined as anything but the union of a man and a woman, that particular fact was irrelevant. The only concern is that "The state regulates marriage because marriage creates stable households, which in turn form the basis of a stable, governable populace." (Never mind that the entire concept of "stable households" is in jeopardy already from "no fault" divorce and under further threat by the disregard in the homosexual community for the concept of "monogamy".) The judge even states, "The evidence at trial shows that marriage in the United States traditionally has not been open to same-sex couples." (I wanted to shout, "Yes!!! See???") But that doesn't matter. The only factors to be considered in "our Nation’s history, legal traditions, and practices" were the irrelevant ones.
So, the court has ruled. Marriage is dead; long live marriage. What is this new marriage? Very simple. Not tough at all. It is just two parties that consent to form a relationship to form a household. That's it. All done. Oh, you know what was key in his decision here? "Race and gender restrictions shaped marriage during eras of race and gender inequality ..." so, because genders are no longer significant "gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage." For those of you who assure me that the radical feminism that has continued to thrive until "gender equality" has arrived with the concept that gender no longer forms an essential part of our society, please, shut up. I think the judge made my point.
On what basis the government will now try to regulate the rest of the questions of "marriage" (which no longer has the same meaning as before) I cannot imagine. How can they possibly refuse polygamy? If she loves her cat and her cat does not protest, how can they possibly deny her under her right to life and liberty and the fundamental right to marry the right to marry her cat? Me? I think I'll look into joining with that ice cream I've been thinking about. It will be short-lived relationship, but a good one, for sure. For the rest of you ... well, the trouble has been brewing for decades, and this isn't the end of it. It only goes on from here. Do you detect some sarcasm on my part? It's only because I'm tired of beating the same drum. It isn't about "equal rights". It's about the meaning of marriage, the importance of gender, the value of values. And even though this ruling is touted as "equal rights", it appears that the people of California don't have the right to govern themselves anymore. And that, dear friends, is the least of your worries.
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It's not about you.
Judge Walker (a Republican appointee): "Marriage in the United States has always been a civil matter. Civil authorities may permit religious leaders to solemnize marriages but not to determine who may enter or leave a civil marriage. Religious leaders may determine independently whether to recognize a civil marriage or divorce but that recognition or lack thereof has no effect on the relationship under state law.… …Proposition 8 does not affect the First Amendment rights of those opposed to marriage for same-sex couples. Prior to Proposition 8, no religious group was required to recognize marriage for same-sex couples."
It's not about you.
Judge Walker: "A PRIVATE MORAL VIEW THAT SAME-SEX COUPLES ARE INFERIOR TO OPPOSITE-SEX COUPLES IS NOT A PROPER BASIS FOR LEGISLATION..."
It's not about you.
You well may accept "God-given" gender distinctions with women being subservient to their husbands. You certainly have a right to believe in, and practice, such gender roles in your marriages, but, the judge ruled that's no reason to bar gays and lesbians from the institution.
It's not about you.
Contrary to the false claims of Religious Right, the state didn't take marriage away from the church, but Christian Protestants demanded the state take the function of marriage in order to directly challenge Catholic claims that marriage was only valid if performed within the Catholic faith.
It's not about you.
It's not about me? I don't remember thinking it was.
It's not about morality or religion. I know, I know, plenty of people raise that objection. I haven't. I don't consider two people of the same gender calling themselves "married" a matter of morality; I consider it a matter of manifest irrationality. Calling it "marriage" simply because "we want it to be" is like calling a guy a girl simply because he wants to be. Oh, wait ... we're doing that, too, aren't we? The judge, the judges before, the entire nation recognizes that marriage is between a man and a woman. It isn't mere opinion. The intent is to redefine that term.
I have not suggested that the judge "bar gays and lesbians from the institution." I have suggested that the institution doesn't have a category that includes "same-sex". It's like "I want to go to the movies, but I don't want to see a movie." It's like "I will classify myself as a Christian ... even though I don't believe there is a God." Manifest irrationality.
It's not about me, you say. To some extent, I will agree. It's about a concerted effort to undermine marriage as a whole. And it isn't "those evil gays" who are doing it. They're just taking part. But it is about me, too, because the concept that was originally "marriage" no longer has a word to represent it in today's society. So ... how do I now communicate that concept? Telling people "I'm married" used to mean something in particular. It no longer does. How do I communicate what I intend? And why is it that, while my concerns are largely the concerns of many, many Americans, it's that tiny 2% who get to determine the definition of the word? Who is there to defend our concerns?
Rhetorical questions, all.
Only two more dominoes to fall: the ninth circuit, then the Supreme Court, which I believe will uphold these two courts.
But don't expect all the homosexuals to go home then and be happy, no, that will be just the beginning. The schools, read, your children, will be the next target, judicial decree in hand, then your church should your pastor finally grow a spine and decide that appeasing God's enemy to win their favor is not where it's at, and so be deemed by the enemies of God to be evil and therefore outlawed.
Speaking of pastors, my guess is that most people after watching this on TV all week will hear not a peep about it from their pulpits this Sunday, unless of coarse the "pastor" agrees with this ruling.
It would be interesting to see how all this falls out when we are finally under sharia law if I am still around, which I believe also is just a matter of time because a society that doesn't know what or who it is cannot stand. A society that does will co-opt and overcome it, kind of like is happening now.
I don't think you're far wrong, Dan. Some truly stunning quotes from the judge's ruling on Prop 8:
"Having both a male and a female parent does not increase the likelihood that a child will be well-adjusted."
"Same-sex couples are identical to opposite-sex couples in the characteristics relevant to the ability to form successful marital unions."
"Gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage."
Perhaps most disturbing is the repeated claim that any religious perspective that views same-sex couples as immoral is "harmful" and "irrational" (his words).
What are the ramifications?
1. "You religious nuts are on notice. Laws based on religious morality are out. The only allowable rationale for any law is secularism. Get your religion out of here."
2. "You crazies who argue that marriage has always been defined at the union of a man and a woman for the creation of a family simply because all of human history has done so are simply wrong. Modern Man has now eliminated gender as an issue. Try to reinsert it and you'll be labeled 'irrational' ... and possibly dangerous."
3. "Anyone who disagrees with the concept of 'same-sex marriage' is wrong. 'Nuff said. No, no, you are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to mine -- the voice of reason and morality."
Having a gay judge rule on such a matter is also irrational. He should have recused himself.
As I look at those fourteen words, I don't see what the issue is. At least not as far as getting "married" if a couple is homosexual. They can still do it. There are plenty of heretical ministers more than willing to comply. What is intended is to force everyone else to accept that such a union is equal to the traditional brand. This is ludicrous. How can it be equal if it is comprised of different components? Total and true equality, as meant by the left, would demand identical components otherwise such equality cannot be had. So right there it can't be equal.
But also, despite the fact that the judge ignores commonly held and statistically supported facts, they are not equal in the child-raising department, either.
But what's most worrisome for me, is the belief that we should change definitions, or our culture or thousands of years of understanding because of how 2% of the population care to pleasure themselves. I also reject their unsupported claims that the attraction is natural or rather, not abnormal or psychologically problematic. One needn't hold a doctorate to understand that nature's intent (for the heathens out there) was for the opposite sexes to come together. To do otherwise indicates a defect. We can pretend we don't need to address that defect. But to pretend that it isn't a defect and should be treated as something normal in the same way heterosexuality is, well, that's plain defective thinking. Worse, it's cheap rationalization and selfish as well.
I was initially disturbed by the fact that the judge was self-identified as gay, but he missed out on his first appointment to the judge position because of a controversial case in which he ruled against a gay group. It still makes me wonder, but less so.
The goal here is indeed not "marriage". The goal here is acceptability. This is why, even though only 2% of the population is identified as "gay", it seems like 90% of the shows on TV are trying to tell us that it is "normal". In the actual complaint, the plaintiff complained that it was "an awkward situation walking to the bank and saying, ‘My partner and I want to open a joint bank account’." What was awkward? They understood that "gay couple" would be perceived as "wrong" and want to force onto those around them "not wrong".
This judge was truly phenomenal, ruling on all sorts of things like whether or not religious moral beliefs are rational (they are not), whether or not feminism has succeeded in eliminating gender distinctions (they have), and what makes for well-adjusted children (because a mother and a father does not). And, of course, the fact that someone felt bad because Prop 8 was passed was classified as "discrimination". I would guess that the fact that a lot of people feel bad about it being thrown out is not "discrimination". So where's the "equal treatment" now?
The amount of time you and your ice cream will remain married (til death do you part) is about typical for the duration of marriages these days anyways. It's easier to get out of a marriage than a cell phone contract. "No-fault divorce" has rendered marriage almost meaningless anyways. At least in the eyes of this society.
I choose to remain faithful to my word and my vows. It's not me that has drifted away from society but society that has strayed.
No wonder I feel absolutely no respect for any laws our government makes today. no wonder I feel their authority is like someone put a 3rd grader in charge of making the rules. They're about as irrelevant as they have made marriage.
I care less now about what the government tell me to do than I ever have before. They just suck at being in charge.
Are you sure God put these guys in charge? something's gonna happen soon.
if it's not about morality or religion, what can be said is wrong with polygamy?
I suppose that's next... After all, other than moral or religious reasons, I think we can marry anyone, anything and as many as we want right?
Mike,
On your first comment, I begin to feel as if the whole thing is irrelevant. Society is irrelevant. Government is irrelevant. They're going down the wrong path and, despite the voices of warning, they aren't stopping. It's not a good idea for me to feel this way, but it seems like a functional coping method. Unfortunately, expressing myself becomes very difficult when I use words one way and everyone else uses them another and we're no longer talking to each other -- two people separated by a common language. A couple of years ago I tried to express this in this post. It's not getting better. But your final statement -- "something's gonna happen soon" -- is more ominous than I like to think about ... but likely true.
I agree with you on your second comment as well. On what possible basis can they limit any kind of marriage at all? Since they are (consciously) redefining marriage anyway and since religious opinions are "irrational", then who gets to decide what "marriage" is and who gets it?
Most disturbing to me is the irrationality of this judge. In his attempt to define marriage, he quoted another ruling as his standard: "a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully
enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred." "Sacred"? Really?? So he can use a term like "sacred" and classify religious perspectives as "irrational" and consider this ... rational?
Yes, indeed, something must happen soon. The options are limited. Either a God-blessed repentance in America or a necessary, even merciful judgment of America. I'm thinking that Ruth Graham wasn't far wrong when she said, "If God doesn't soon bring judgment upon America, He'll have to go back and apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah!"
@Naum,
I wrote today's post before I saw your comment. I thought, when I saw your comment, that perhaps it was connected, in so far as your claim that "the state didn't take marriage away from the church." In other words, perhaps there is some agreement between us. It's not all "them". It is us.
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