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Thursday, February 17, 2011

Wolves and Sheep

You don't have to go far to hear "You know, you're not supposed to judge!" It isn't hard to find people, both outside and inside the church, that will tell you, "Don't be judgmental. You should only be concerned about your own ways." It isn't only the skeptic that assures us that, for instance, calling homosexual behavior a sin is bigoted and mean-spirited. "What we really need to do," we are told from within and without, "is to love everyone. You should be an advocate for everyone. That's what Jesus was all about, wasn't it? 'Neither do I judge you.' That's what Jesus said."

I saw this the other day.
To show love to wolves is just another way of hating sheep. To love sheep, as all good shepherds must, is to hate wolves (Sola Scriptura, Creeds, and Ecclesiastical Authority" in When Shall These Things Be?, p. 273).

7 comments:

Marshal Art said...

Wow! Perhaps you've been following the fun and hijinks over at Dan T's blog! I've been getting a lot of that "Neither do I condemn you." stuff, as if it means Jesus doesn't condemn the sin of the person to whom He was speaking. I'm guessing that this little phrase is a snapshot of what His sacrifice will mean to those who then believe in Him; that a one's past will not be held against him, nor the occasional manifestation of one's imperfect human nature from that point on. However, I have never been concerned with such scenarios in my many discussions with certain usual suspects. They simply like to pretend that I'm condemning a one-time indiscretion, or a past set of them before conversion.

BTW, one of those usual suspects had happened upon your blog by some chance, couldn't remember your name, but had your blog name, and saw that I visit here. He feels you and he see things the same but never has he seen me give you a hard time as he feels I do him. Which I kinda do. Frankly, despite his seeming Calvinist leanings as regards how he speaks of what he says he believes, he has not demonstrated the same tone and definitely does hold the same things as sinful as I believe you do. In other words, he doesn't quite walk the talk anywhere near the same way you appear to. Just sayin'.

Stan said...

It's amazing to me how far a phrase like "Neither do I condemn you" (taken completely without context or regard for the entire rest of Scripture) can go.

I saw that my name was used "in vain" over there. (Just kidding.) I was quite surprised that he said he agrees with most of my theology. But, hey, who am I to judge? By that I mean I don't even know the guy.

David said...

People like to point out that we are supposed to take care of the plank in our eye before we point out the speck in our brother's. They always forget that its not saying don't point out the speck, but take care of yours first, then theirs.

Marshal Art said...

It's not the first time this particular individual has stopped short of the entire verse in order to further his argument.

Dan Trabue said...

Okay, I said I wouldn't comment here this year, but IF I were not being mentioned. Since comments at my blog are being misrepresented, I'd like to clarify them...

When WE were speaking of "neither do I condemn you" at my blog, we meant it EXACTLY in context. We were not suggesting that God does not condemn the sin. We were speaking of God's grace towards people in SPITE of sin.

That IS the context.

Stan said...

Yes, David. It's interesting that immediately following the most well-known verse in the Bible, "Judge not that ye be not judged", Jesus gives instructions on how to properly judge.

Dan, if you feel it's important that you defend your blog here, so be it. For the record, I wasn't referencing your blog when I mentioned how far people take the statement "Neither do I condemn you". I was referencing the idea and, well, how far people take the statement. Regardless of what was meant in the discussion at your blog, lots of people mean "Don't be judgmental. You should only be concerned about your own ways." That was not Jesus's intent. (See David's comment, for instance.)

Danny Wright said...

This thinking is where I got the idea for my post "Don't Tell Me You Love Me"