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Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Elect According to Foreknowledge

"Come on, guys," some have suggested, "this just isn't that hard. Look, Peter clearly said that we 'are elect ... according to the foreknowledge of God the Father.' It was Paul who said, 'Those whom he foreknew he also predestined ...' This isn't rocket science. God is omniscient. He knows everything that will occur. Looking down the corridors of time, He saw who would choose Him and then, from the beginning of time, chose them. There you go! Election and Free Will. It's just not that hard!" And there are some very bright, respectable believers who go with that. It's quite popular. I should know -- I used to believe that, too.

Let's think that through for a moment. What does it take to "choose Him"? What does it take to become one of the saved? Well, there are three basic ingredients that all of us agree about. It requires coming to Christ in faith and repentance. Slower. It requires 1) coming to Christ in 2) faith and 3) repentance. Not that hard, really, and we're all on the same page! Doesn't get much better than this, right?

Hold on. (You knew that was coming, I'm sure.) Where do these three components come from? The Bible is not silent on this. According to Scripture, believing is a gift from God. It doesn't come out of our own efforts. It's given to us. As much as we'd like to think otherwise, we're just not up to the task of placing our full confidence in Him as long as we're dead in sin. So He grants it. Jesus said it (John 6:65). Paul said it (Phil 1:29). It is, despite our preference to the contrary, a repeated concept in the Bible. Oddly enough, so is repentance. Paul told Timothy to keep on "correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth" (2 Tim 2:25). Note that repentance is granted by God, and note especially that He may grant it ... or He may not. The Jewish Christians thought that the Gentiles were not going to get salvation until Peter told them about his experience with Cornelius. They responded, "Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life" (Acts 11:18). As for coming to Christ in the first place, Jesus said categorically, "No man can." Thanks be to God that He didn't end His sentence there. "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day" (John 6:44). Now if it's a given that the Father draws everyone, then we have two things to consider. First, why make the statement? It would be like saying, "No man can walk unless he has bones." But ... we all do have bones, so what's your point? Worse, according to Jesus, those whom the Father draws will be raised up on the last day. So if this is a universal drawing, you've just subscribed to Universalism.

As it turns out, salvation is quite simple. It requires only three components. And from there it gets even easier. We don't drum up those three parts; God gives them to us. How nice!

So, back to the original concept. Here's the suggestion. God will give to the elect the necessary pieces to be saved. Knowing that they will then come to Him (because He drew them) in faith and repentance (because He gave these to them), He will choose them. Well ... I suppose so ... if that's how you wish to phrase it. Seems a little odd to me. It would be like a team captain thinking, "I'm going to give this kickball to Timmy and then, because he's holding the kickball, I'm going to choose him for my team." Did Timmy get chosen because he was holding the kickball? Well, yes, but it wasn't Timmy's "free will" that got him there, now, was it?

One other thought here on the foreknowledge according to which God elects to save. The word is simple in Greek -- prognosis. (Yes, the forefather of our modern "prognosis".) It's a two part word with "pro" meaning "before" and "gnosis" meaning "know". And if it were a simple English translation we'd be done. But it isn't. You see, there is a fundamental difference between "knowing" facts and "knowing" people. Surely, even when I say it in our own English vernacular you see a difference between the two. When Jesus told the false prophets, "I never knew you; depart from Me", He was not telling them "I have no knowledge of you." He was not suggesting ignorance. No, when used in terms of people, there is more than being cognizant of; there is familiarity. When Adam knew his wife, it wasn't an "Aha!" moment. It was intimacy. And when the Bible talks about God knowing us, it would be redundant to speak of an omniscient being who knows us. No, when the Bible talks about God knowing us -- as in prognosis -- it is not "prescience", but familiarity, friendship, intimacy, connection ... in advance in the case of prognosis.

Are we chosen on the basis of His foreknowledge? Absolutely! But that doesn't mean that we're chosen because He saw in advance what we would do. It means that before we existed He had laid His affection on us and determined to provide for us all that would be required to be saved. He didn't do it because of our lovable nature. He did it in order that His purpose of election might continue (Rom 9:11). We weren't just so adorable He couldn't help Himself. In fact, He chose the losers, the foolish, the ones who wouldn't have any room to say, "He chose me because I'm so valuable." It's grace alone. Yes, it's His foreknowledge, but it's His prior love and awareness of what He would do. Yes, it really is all about Him.

8 comments:

David said...

The other problem with "He looked down the line of time and knew who would choose Him" is that it suggests God is stuck in time like us. He only had foreknowledge in relation to our timeline, to Him it has happened, is happening, will happen.

Stan said...

First, I do believe we are elected according to foreknowledge. I just believe it is fore-affection and a prior knowledge of what He would do. Just to be clear.

But, you're right, there are more problems with the "prescience" concept. Good point. It makes Him a passenger on this time train. It also makes Him a local school kid who only picks His friends to be His friends. "Well, if you'll like me, I'll let you be my friend." It also puts Him at the mercy of His creation. He cannot choose to save one who has no intention of being saved. Sorry, God. You lose. Nice try. Maybe next time you'll figure out something that works.

Lots of problems with that idea.

Anonymous said...

Foreknowledge… Prescience… Kind of reminds me…

A few weeks back Fox News did a story about a woman who won a gargantuan lottery. It may have been something like $90 million. The twist on the story was that she had been separated from her husband for years, but not officially divorced. Speculation abounded as to which spouse’s lawyer team would win in court over whether the money had to be split.

While listening to that story, I found myself wondering if Believers see really large lottery jackpots (maybe the small ones too) as being controlled by God. Say that they use a hopper full of ping-pong balls. Does God tweak the balls to get the numerical sequence that will cause the person to win that He wants to win?

I have never bought a lottery ticket. I have a Christian cousin who says, “I buy lottery tickets to give God the chance to make me rich if He wants me to be rich.” I have never heard of him winning anything of consequence.

It might be interesting to compare statistics on lottery winners vs. the public at large--or maybe more relevantly, vs. lottery ticket buyers--regarding their religions faith, to get some insight into whether the winning of the prize correlates with religious convictions.

--Lee

Stan said...

If genuine Christians are playing the lottery to get rich, they missed some important texts in their Bibles.

I told God, "Look, I have a plan to really bring you glory. Why not have me win without buying a ticket? That way everyone will know that it was you and not blind chance." He knew, of course, that I was kidding.

I don't believe in chance. Chance doesn't do anything. Chance is not a thing. Chance is no thing. Chance is nothing. Chance is simply the method we humans use to calculate probabilities based on too many variables. The variables make the difference, not the chance.

Anonymous said...

Remotely along the lines of the lottery question above, a question that I asked a Mormon fellow who unfortunately stopped emailing back and forth with me in 2009 was: “When a cosmic ray from outside our solar system strikes the abdomen of the cow wearing ear tag # 303 in the feedlot, such that the cow dies from a cancerous abdominal tumor two years later, did God direct the cosmic ray specifically to achieve that end?”

He gave a forthright “Yes” answer to my question.

I may have once asked Andrew Tallman this question at his blog site or his email: “If astronomers find that an asteroid is in a trajectory such that it is calculated to strike the Earth on April 11, 2095 and do a great deal of damage, should NASA try to do something to destroy or deflect the asteroid? Or should believers view the trajectory as something planned by God, such that we ought not mess with it?”

I don’t think I got a response from him on that, though I have gotten replies from him on other issues.

Pardon me for straying pretty far from your February 16 topic.

--Lee

Stan said...

How about asking the real question? "Is God actually in charge of all that happens?" Your answer: "No way!" The Christian answer: "Absolutely!" The Creator of the universe doesn't put Himself at the mercy of His creation.

Your questions presuppose things that are not in evidence.

Enoch said...

There are not 3 hoops to jump through by a man for him to be saved. Lots of things had to be done, but God did all of them except one: Man's responsibility is to trust/believe in/depend upon/ have faith in the Lord Jesus. I can post many, many verses were salvation is offered on one condition alone to man: FAITH. Repentance (metanoia) is rarely used, but metanoia = change of mind. The only change of mind that saves is from unbelief to faith. Coming to Christ is not a 3rd thing. Believe on the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved. Period. Exercising faith is receiving Christ & coming to Him. I reject the multiple hoop jump theory.

Now I realize some of you may be so Calvinistic that you think God also believes for us. Whether or not God gives faith as a gift & causes men to believe, man does the believing & man's belief is a requirement for his salvation. BTW John 3:16 does NOT read:
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only son that that whosoever has everlasting life should not perish, but believe in HIm."

Stan said...

Hi, Enoch, and welcome (late) to the "game". You did not address any of the content of the post. Further, what you've offered here is commonly referred to as a "strawman" argument. I know of not one single person who argues that "God believes for us." Not one. So arguing that we do is simply false.

What you really haven't addressed is the Scriptures that say, "You were dead in the trespasses and sins " (Eph 2:1-3) and "The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God" (Rom 8:5-8) and "The Natural Man cannot understand the things of God" (1 Cor 2:14) and so much more. Your idea is that any natural human being is perfectly capable of moving from being spiritually dead, anti-God, and incapable of understanding the things of God to "I accept it!" Some of us understand Scripture to say (Scripture, not John Calvin) that God must first remove the internal impediments (like spiritually dead, hostility to God, incapable of believing (John 6:64-65)) before we can respond in faith. Some believe that God did 99.9% of the work and we have 1 thing to do -- believe. Others of us believe that God did it all, including supplying us with the faith (Phil 1:29) and repentance (2 Tim 2:25) that we exercise. Very few who believe the former can offer a Scriptural basis for their view that includes the kinds of things I've referenced.