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Thursday, January 10, 2013

Trick Question

Of course, the sanctity of marriage (as the fundamental core of society and the first relationship instituted by God and the key example of the union of Christ and the Church) has always been on my mind and comes up often in these pages, but the most recent "shot across the bow" is the story that the National Cathedral is now ready to begin performing same-sex weddings. How it is classified as the "National Cathedral" and how that gets to be acceptable in view of all of Scripture and all of history is beyond me. But the message is clear. "We got it right. The rest of you who don't agree are not right and, now, not even American." Got it.

Okay, here's the premise. The fact is that "same-sex marriage" is not prohibited in the Bible. What do you do with that?

7 comments:

David said...

We do the same thing we do with all activities not directly identified in Scripture. We find the guiding principle, the base idea, the proto-theory. Because something isn't directly mentioned doesn't mean it doesn't have something that applies to it. Why would the writers write on a concept they know nothing about? Same-sex marriage was as foreign to the Bible authors as space travel.

And anyone that claims this is about equality isn't thinking clearly. This isn't about equality, it is about getting what someone else has, even though I have no claim to it. If it were about equality only, polygamy would be on the table, polyandry would be on the table. But no, even the homosexual community isn't ready to accept their claim for "marriage equity". "Marriage equity" is a smoke screen meant to play on our emotions, not our logic.

Stan said...

Okay. Can you offer the "proto-theory"? (It appears that you simply agreed that it's not in Scripture without offering a reason, then, to suggest it isn't biblical/right. I'm just trying to poke answers out of you.)

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Well, since God established marriage as the union of a man and a woman, and since he called homosexual behavior an abomination, I would say that is pretty good evidence that same-sex fake marriage is unbiblical!

But, you have to remember that the National Cathedral is an Episcopalian church, and the Episcopal church long ago left any semblance of Christian orthodoxy.

Stan said...

You see, that's where I find the answer. Saying "The Bible doesn't forbid same-sex marriage" is like saying "The Bible doesn't forbid square circles." The Bible defines marriage and it becomes pointless, then, to suggest that other things that don't fit that definition are part of it. The Bible doesn't forbid marrying your cat, marrying your tree, or marrying your favorite roller coaster, either, but that's because these aren't marriage. Neither is "same-sex marriage".

David said...

I didn't give the references because you've given them countless times. But like Glenn said, we know that a) sex outside of marriage is a sin, b) homosexuality is never painted in a positive manner in Scripture, and c) the Old Testament, the New Testament, Jesus, the Father, Paul, and Peter all define marriage as between a man and a woman. a+b+c=homosexual acts are a sin and cannot be reconciled by marriage because marriage doesn't allow for same gender union.

Stan said...

The Scriptures are abundantly clear. Marriage is something. It operates a certain way. It produces something. It ... "works". Imitations of this component or that output do not make the imitations "marriage".

An illustration I heard. A leg has a function, a purpose, an operation. If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have? The answer is four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't give it the form, fit, or function of a leg.

In the same sense, "same-sex marriage" doesn't have the form, fit, or function of marriage. Calling it such doesn't make it such. So forbidding it is pointless since it doesn't exist.

Danny Wright said...

If arguments from silence are valid, then the number of laws by which we would need to conduct our lives would out number the federal deficit... assuming that they don't already. Can you imagine a child: "Mom you told me not to hit my sister, you never told me not to stab her!".