tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post8810398186164548087..comments2024-03-28T13:07:51.025-07:00Comments on Winging It: SexStanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04523232247971115247noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-28333946186487133812017-08-07T11:53:23.848-07:002017-08-07T11:53:23.848-07:00How is the first sentence of the verse not a manda...How is the first sentence of the verse not a mandate? Unless you're defining "conjugal" as something else. Plus, just because it's something assumed to be done doesn't mean it doesn't need saying. You'd assume a husband loving his wife would be a given, but we're still commanded to do it. Why? Because it doesn't always happen. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08443810898475961105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-15339517286575478632017-08-06T15:27:45.993-07:002017-08-06T15:27:45.993-07:00Yes, I understood your point. However, your positi...Yes, I understood your point. However, your position comes from a modern perspective and the perspective in biblical times was "Marriage is for procreation" and "No woman alive would NOT want to have a child", so husbands are commanded to give their wives their conjugal rights and wives are commanded not to withhold sex from their husbands. Your "doesn't seem logical" works in today's world where "marriage" long ago lost its "for procreation" definition.<br /><br />But, as I said, I suppose there could be exceptions.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523232247971115247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-2400690839298446002017-08-06T14:56:47.359-07:002017-08-06T14:56:47.359-07:00Again, there's nothing in any of the verses yo...Again, there's nothing in any of the verses you've presented that suggest such a mandate. The mandate, to use that term, is to submit to the spouse, not that each MUST come together to have sex. I would reiterate that the few would enter into marriage and NOT have sex or choose to avoid having sex, so a mandate doesn't seem logical. It would be like having a mandate to eat or breathe. Unnecessary. At least no such mandate appears in any of the verses you've presented. One could point to Genesis for something that could be said to be a mandate, but still it seems a redundant and unnecessary. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-50740005361693914752017-08-05T12:41:12.480-07:002017-08-05T12:41:12.480-07:00"I'm not seeing a mandate to have sex.&qu..."<i>I'm not seeing a mandate to have sex.</i>"Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523232247971115247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-30215796216777688452017-08-05T11:31:49.601-07:002017-08-05T11:31:49.601-07:00With what aspect of my comment do you find disagre...With what aspect of my comment do you find disagreeable?Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-55935911529939267512017-08-04T20:03:19.133-07:002017-08-04T20:03:19.133-07:00I suppose there could be exceptions.I suppose there could be exceptions.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523232247971115247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-12003835594617226132017-08-04T20:03:06.415-07:002017-08-04T20:03:06.415-07:00I would, of course, disagree given what I've a...I would, of course, disagree given what I've already written on the text.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523232247971115247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30006406.post-64910952695450604152017-08-04T19:20:16.916-07:002017-08-04T19:20:16.916-07:00Not to quibble...because who am I if not one who w...Not to quibble...because who am I if not one who will not quibble...but I'm not seeing a mandate to have sex. I see a way to have sex that is not prohibited, while yet regulated as being subordinate to the <i>needs</i> of the spouse (as such I agree with your use of the word "need" in the arrangement, but with a somewhat different emphasis). Thus, the mandate is to be prepared to "give it up" as it were on the terms of or for the benefit of the spouse primarily. As such, as regards the human desire for sexual gratification, the mandate is to marry so that one's indulgence isn't immoral. That is to say, sex is darn near a given, typically, once one is married so that no mandate to engage in it is necessary <br /><br />What say you to this understanding?Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.com